Comments on: God, Coins, the National Motto, and the Pledge of Allegiance (II) http://opinions.silverelk.net/2007/11/03/god-coins-the-national-motto-and-the-pledge-of-allegiance/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:18:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: anonymous http://opinions.silverelk.net/2007/11/03/god-coins-the-national-motto-and-the-pledge-of-allegiance/#comment-8 anonymous Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:27:51 +0000 http://opinions.silverelk.net/2007/11/03/god-coins-the-national-motto-and-the-pledge-of-allegiance/#comment-8 <em>[The following comment was sent to the Silverelk site as an email message rather than a comment, so I have not included the author's name. The audio files are quite large: 8.81MB for the pledge case, 7.95MB for the Motto case. — Brad]</em> You can listen to the Dec 4th, 2007, oral arguments by Michael Newdow before the 9th Circuit pertaining to the Pledge & the use of the National Motto on coins at <a href="http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/</a>. Select "Audio Files" Put in "05-17257" for the Pledge case. For the Motto case, put in "06-16344." [The following comment was sent to the Silverelk site as an email message rather than a comment, so I have not included the author's name. The audio files are quite large: 8.81MB for the pledge case, 7.95MB for the Motto case. — Brad]

You can listen to the Dec 4th, 2007, oral arguments by Michael Newdow before the 9th Circuit pertaining to the Pledge & the use of the National Motto on coins at http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/.

Select “Audio Files”
Put in “05-17257″ for the Pledge case. For the Motto case, put in “06-16344.”

]]> By: NAP http://opinions.silverelk.net/2007/11/03/god-coins-the-national-motto-and-the-pledge-of-allegiance/#comment-7 NAP Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:04:24 +0000 http://opinions.silverelk.net/2007/11/03/god-coins-the-national-motto-and-the-pledge-of-allegiance/#comment-7 Regarding 'Washington’s famous use of “So help me God” in his oath is one.' That famous usage is a myth. There is no known contemporaneous, eyewiteness account that he appended that phrase. The earliest known claim that he appended that phrase was made 65 years after the fact by Washington Irving who would have been 6 years at the time and who did not himself claim to have actually heard that phrase being said. See http://www.nonbeliever.org/commentary/inaugural_shmG.html for the details. Regarding ‘Washington’s famous use of “So help me God” in his oath is one.’ That famous usage is a myth. There is no known contemporaneous, eyewiteness account that he appended that phrase. The earliest known claim that he appended that phrase was made 65 years after the fact by Washington Irving who would have been 6 years at the time and who did not himself claim to have actually heard that phrase being said. See http://www.nonbeliever.org/commentary/inaugural_shmG.html for the details.

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